- Тема: MLA-30 Активная приемная КВ антенна из Китая
- MLA-30 Активная приемная КВ антенна из Китая
- Тема: Приёмные антенны 80-160 м
- Reviews of the Low Cost MLA-30 Wide Band HF Magnetic Loop Antenna
- MLA-30 Magnetic Loop Antenna Review and Comparison by David Day (N1DAY)
- Inside the MLA-30 Active Loop Antenna by Matt (M0LMK)
- Cheap Chinese Magnetic Loop Antenna (MegaLoop aka MAGALoop) MLA-30 by John
- First hour battle of the antennas W6LVP loop VS MLA 30 loop test by OfficialSWLchannel
- The SWLing Post
- Shortwave listening and everything radio including reviews, broadcasting, ham radio, field operation, DXing, maker kits, travel, emergency gear, events, and more
- MLA-30 loop antenna unboxing video
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MLA-30 Активная приемная КВ антенна из Китая
Неужели мы дожили? Китайцы массово продают активную приемную антенну!
Тык.
Кто-нибудь за нее что-то слышал? Пендосы пишут — бомба! Особенно на НЧ.
Жмяк.
Вот ее схема:
А если сделать рамку поболее — так ведь ушельцев принять можно будет!
Последний раз редактировалось UN8GEQ; 23.10.2019 в 05:04 .
Видимо, никто не пользовался. 🙁 Цена не высока, наверное, закажу.
Не впечатлен.
На видео американцев четко вижу, что помехи из ближнего поля прекрасно сосет.
По мне, так болгарин LZ1AQ делает куда интересней вариант: усилитель, две переключаемые рамки (+сложение) и не резонансный диполь. Питание (13.8V) передается по FTP-кабелю.
Весьма эффективно и проверено.
Пример эфира на усилитель LZ1AQ, установленный за балконом (5 этаж, двор «котлом»). Посмотрите на отношение сигнал/шум.
По мне, так рамка хорошо себя показывает до 6МГц, дальше начинает выигрывать нерезонансный диполь.
Кручение поляризации дает своей положительный эффект в определённых диапазонах.
Последний раз редактировалось R2AGG; 23.10.2019 в 10:30 .
Установка приемной антенны на балконе в самом источнике помех, не совсем верное решение, которое проигрывает большой антенне, установленной на крыше. У меня на крыше «свечки» (55м) стоял штырь, так на него я слышал гораздо лучше, на 160 в наших тестах проводил больше 100 связей.
Я так понял, что это простой вертикал запитанный кабелем? Какой длины был вертикал и как он согласовывался внизу с приемником?
rx1ag
Валентин, вертикал был 13 метром с емкостными нагрузками от dl2kq, только было на каждый диапазон по одному противовесу, на высоте 55 м , они уходили с края дома и висели в сободном пространстве. Так на эту антенну я попадал в топ самых громких станций в компании rl3a, r7lv.
Хочется верить в чудеса, но внутри меня что-то этому противится.
Интересует АЧХ и как эта антенна «загребёт» помехи.
Ну и присутствует некая уверенность, что грозы и молнии выведут из строя усилитель на счёт «раз-два» и никакие диоды на входе не помогут.
Сплошной пессимизм у меня, хотя могу и ошибаться
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В идеале земля у нагрузочного резистора делается «направленной», к примеру полукруг из радиалов в направлении на корр.При этом к качеству заземления требования не высокие.А вместе приема у трансформатора землю надо делать оч.хорошую,в идеале совсем без потерь.К примеру железо в землю забивать и устилать радиалами(8-10 м.) по кругу и побольше.
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По поводу NEC2,Деволдер в своей книге множество раз утверждает,что все рассчеты в программах являются приблизительными на НЧ диапазонах из за огромного влияния земли.Теперь по заземлению.Антенна бевереджа сама по себе является двухнаправленной, нет? Сигнал с одного направления поглощается в комплексной нагрузке,а именно на резисторе и включенной последовательно системе заземления,не важно в каком соотношении там поглощается мощность,но оч. желательно что бы вся поглотилась.На стороне трансформатора тоже самое.К примеру тот же автор пишет,что железный кол забитый в песчаную почву может иметь сопротивление до 300 ом.А трансформатор в среднем имеет 450 ом..Потери сами можете подсчитать.Понятно что супер-пупуер земля не нужна,но хотя бы не более нескольких десятков ОМ.Кстати большое кол-во коротких радиалов играет роль конденсатора да еще добавить несколько колов,то это уже решение проблемы.По поводу полукруга из радиалов,это не я придумал,а рекомендации другого автора,возможно он не прав,не мне судить.
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Reviews of the Low Cost MLA-30 Wide Band HF Magnetic Loop Antenna
Recently Chinese manufacturers have begun producing a low cost wide band (100 kHz — 30 MHz) magnetic loop HF antenna known as the MLA-30. The loop can be found on eBay for under US$45 with free shipping. In the past wide band HF loop antennas have not been cheap, normally costing $300+ dollars from manufacturers like Wellbrook.
RF signals are electromagnetic waves that consist of an electric and magnetic component. A magnetic loop antenna mostly receives the magnetic portion of the wave. This is useful as most unwanted interference from modern electronic devices is generated in the electric component only. So, a magnetic loop antenna may be preferable in city and suburban environments over other antennas like wires and miniwhips. Magnetic loops are also directional, and can be rotated to avoid interference.
One of the biggest costs to a magnetic loop antenna is the shipping, because a large hula hoop sized piece of metal needs to be sent. The MLA-30 cuts costs on shipping by providing a folded up thin loop wire and no physical support for the loop. You are expected to provide your own support, or simply hang the loop wire on something. If you like you can also replace the included loop wire with a larger loop.
The MLA-30 comes with 10m of RG174 coax, is bias tee powered, and comes as a set with a bias tee injector that is powered over 5V USB. We tested our own unit with the RTL-SDR Blog V3, Airspy and SDRplay bias tee’s and found that they all worked well instead of the included bias tee. So if you have one of those SDRs using the loop is as simple and neat as plugging it in and turning on the bias tee.
In terms of build quality, the unit is sturdy and the PCB is fully potted and protected against rain/weather. It is yet to be seen how the external screw terminals holding on the loop will age over a longer period of time however.
So how does the very cheap MLA-30 compare to higher end magnetic loop antennas? Below are some reviews by various hams and SWLs. The general consensus is that it works well for the price, but as you’d expect, falters on handling very strong signals and produces a higher noise floor compared to the more expensive loops, especially in the higher HF bands. But overall we’d say that it’s probably still better than using a miniwhip, especially in suburban/city environments, and is probably the best compact HF antenna that you can get on a budget.
What’s included in the MLA-30 set. Photo from David Day’s Review.
MLA-30 Magnetic Loop Antenna Review and Comparison by David Day (N1DAY)
In this review David compares the MLA-30 against a 30-ft ground loop and a Wellbrook ALA1530-LF. His results show that while the loop is capable of receiving the same signals that the two comparison loops can, the SNR is much lower. He also notes that the much thinner loop wire used on the MLA-30 seems to result in a much deeper null, and that IMD was a problem for him.
Inside the MLA-30 Active Loop Antenna by Matt (M0LMK)
This post is a complete teardown of the antenna. As the PCB is fully potted Matt had to boil down the epoxy in order to get to the actual PCB. He notes that the PCB is a simple single amplifier design with the exposed pot working as a gain control.
Cheap Chinese Magnetic Loop Antenna (MegaLoop aka MAGALoop) MLA-30 by John
In this review John compares the MLA-30 against a $345 W6LVP and Wellbrook ALA1530LN. His findings are very favorable concluding that it is an adequate performer, perfect for cash strapped SWLs.
First hour battle of the antennas W6LVP loop VS MLA 30 loop test by OfficialSWLchannel
This is a YouTube video where OfficialSWLchannel compares his MLA-30 against a W6LVP loop. He notes that his initial testing shows that the MLA-30 performs as well as the W6LVP loop.
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MLA-30 loop antenna unboxing video
Many thanks to SWLing Post contributor, Paul, who notes:
This video is in Chinese, but at least we can see what’s inside the box:
Thanks for sharing, Paul.
If you’ve ordered the MLA-30, please let us know your thoughts about the construction and performance!
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Very Good? I use it receive KTWR DRM shortwave broadcast. I come from china, $30 can be buy it in china.
Running one on a KiwiSDR I found there is a noise peak around 6MHz and what could be common mode noise kills everything under about 430kHz.
For the price quite decent, less prone to the QRM that kills active whips here.
Haven’t played with larger loops but did try a 622mm alloy bike rim and that moves the noise peak up to just under 8MHz.
Tried as dipole (2x1m) and there is not much to be heard around 5MHz like that, not sure what causes that frequency range to be full-on or nothing but it’s not meant to be used as a dipole so just an idle test.
Will try to work on the sub 450kHz area to see if I can tame the noise with ferrite as it does claim coverage from 100kHz.
I also bought one ,i am in a very noisy environment but with the mla-30 i can turn him to the point the noise is almost gone.
Signals are very strong.
Easy to power the antenna with a usb powerpack.
Live in the netherlands
Tried it with a different bias-tee from a miniwhip antenna ,and then the noise on the longwave is gone and signals are good readable.
So a better constructed bias -tee does the trick
Just hooked mine up to some pvc pipe testing it in the house hooked up to my sangean 909x. So far extremely impressed. Especially for the money. Yes and in the house it’s outperforming my 85 ft longwire running from my house to a tree.works on am radio too….I can’t wait to hook it up outside
Same set up here – 909x indoors. I’m stunned. I mean, things aren’t crystal clear but I can now get 5085 to tune in the evenings. I used to have to go outside and stand on my driveway to hear WTWW. I’m also picking up signal, albeit faint, on LW where before I heard zilch. AM broadcast reception is also vastly improved. Best $50 I’ve spent since that last bottle of whiskey. Ha ha. Is it the silver bullet of antennas? Of course not, nothing is. Is it a nice little antenna that does a good job for its size and price? You bet. Just wish I had understood ahead of time a few adapters are needed to get from the SMA connector to the mono plug on my radio but with Amazon and some web searching I figured it out and got what I needed delivered to the house. (SMA female to F-type male adapter in case you’re wondering. I also needed and happened to have an F type Female to 3.5mm male but you will want to order one of those too if your radio has an antenna jack)
Just recieved mine in the post, happy to post up some videos really soon ?
It would be great to see a proper review of the MLA-30 alongside a Wellbrook or a Mini Whip.
Mine arrived just before the shortest shipping time here in New England, and not too far from NYC. I bought it to use with the PL-360 series radios for midday DXing at remote sites. Using the ETM band scans, it loaded 16% more SW stations and 24% more MW stations last evening than barefoot.
The loop element is about 26 inches in diameter. My plan is to attach it to a tall 3/8th inch diameter fiber glass ‘electric fence post’ I can stick in the ground most anywhere. Later I’ll try it on other radios with jacks which operate on MW.- FARMERIK
I can’t wait for mine to arrive as well. Did you say the loop element is only 26 inches? I have a 6ft length of copper wire, would it help or hinder the loop? Thx Matthew
It’d likely move the both the lower and upper frequency limits (or at least the point of peak sensitivity that Stu Capon M0AQY mentions above) down, and increase sensitivity a bit.
Overall, I wouldn’t think it’d have much useful effect either way on an amplified loop (amp characteristics tend to outweigh loop characteristics). Though 6′ length = 1.9m diameter, so it’ll be acting more as a dipole than a loop above 15MHz or so, and any overall sensitivity gain (or extended response into the much noisier lower frequencies) from the bigger loop may make the amp more prone to overload/IM.
I’d try it with the stock loop, then if I was in an experimentin’ mood I’d try a
1m diameter loop.
Ordered one also last night.
Very interested to try one for portable use!
Definitely going to take the screws out and take a look inside that amplifier box.
Now to wait and see how long it takes to ship to VK.
Think I’m going to order one and give it a try. Now the 3-6 weeks waiting for it to come from China to here in the central USA..
That was quite a cliffhanger! Glad it came out of the box (unboxed) OK.
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